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July 26, 2010, 12:56P

Cedar point beach, what would you do?

I have been going to the CP beach for a while, at least once during each visit to the park. I dont like the beach rules, with the use of a tiny roped off area to swim, where you are not allowed to splash friends, run, toss a ball, or even dip your toe on the other side the the rope.

The lake is a wide open shoreline, with semi-decent waves and if you swim out far enough, you can actually go over your head! Just a guess, of course.

I once saw teens, people my age, and one child just simply wading in the water up to their ANKLES and the lifeguard came racing, not walking, but speeding over to them to chase them out. My friend and I once waded in the shallows and were chased out as well.

I think they should at least make the designated area larger so older people can actually SWIM, not just wade in water only suitable for babies and tots.

Yes, I know the lifegaurds are only keeping us safe, and I am not bashing them, if any one on here is a lifeguard, but I am only wishing it could suit more people who enjoy the lake as much as I do.

We have the wave pool, but for free, you can enjoy the lake!


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July 26, 2010, 12:59P

Re: Cedar point beach, what would you do?

I never knew the swim area was so small. I've never spent any time on the beach to notice.


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July 26, 2010, 1:34P

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The only reason I don't spend time on the beach is because I knew about their dumb rules. If you go to any public beach the whole thing is open. You can do whatever you want. The rules are too strict.


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July 26, 2010, 1:39P

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Blame the lawyers, not the park.

Remember, if you drown on a public beach, your family can't sue anyone. If you drown on CPs beach, your family can sue the living hell out of the park, regardless of whether it was your own fault.

I really can't blame them for pulling a little CYA with regards to the beach.


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July 26, 2010, 1:39P

Re: Cedar point beach, what would you do?

Why can't it be public?


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July 26, 2010, 1:54P

Re: Cedar point beach, what would you do?

Because it is located on private property. That immediately makes it not public.

Now there may be some "right of way" issues, where if you are in the water, it is technically public land, but since you have to pass through private property to get there I'm not sure it applies.

And like I said, the restrictions are likely set by lawyers. Specifically the ones that work for Cedar Point's insurance company.


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July 26, 2010, 2:04P

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Ah, I get it now. So beaches in Florida or any other places are mostly public? No one owns them to make it private property?


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July 26, 2010, 2:07P

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When I was a kid you could go WAY out into the lake, into at least 7 or 8 feet of water. The swim area was very large and you could even get in some good body surfing or raft surfing if the lake was right.

The swim area now is a joke. Since they use Ellis for lifeguard training, they need to put the lifeguards through the ocean training course and open up the beach like it should be. From what I have heard, they send the lifeguards to lake training, which is really for small inland lakes.


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July 26, 2010, 2:59P

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Don't you just love the direction this country is going?

Lawsuits for anything and everything. I guess you can remove common sense from the american language.

If people only knew about what kind of attractions parks around the world have, that they can still have today because people use common sense...you would be amazed.

And it's all because of common sense and self responsability. Everyone want's to point a finger at someone besides themself anymore.


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July 26, 2010, 3:13P

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I was on the beach for fourth of July weekend & there was this one life guard who was yelling at everyone. She was yelling at all the boaters to go back on their boats saying that they are not allowed on the beach. She continued to yell every few minutes for those on the wrong side of the rope or going beyond the ropes. The beach was busy with people enjoying the holiday weekend they needed to have another set of life guards watching the second roped off area to accommodate everyone on the beach. Its hard to have an enjoyable relaxing day on the beach when you have to listen to a life guard yell every few seconds.


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July 26, 2010, 3:14P

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A second set of eyes wouldn't have made the yelling any less.

It just would have meant two voices rather than one yelling at the idiots that can't follow simple rules.


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July 26, 2010, 3:45P

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I was at the park a few weeks ago and got to see the life guards doing some drills. There had to be about a dozen of them there. A couple of them ran across the beach, into the water and started dragging what must have been some type of net. They found their dummy, brought it back to shore and then started resuscitation.


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July 26, 2010, 3:50P

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The wave pool is also a joke. I made the mistake of wading into that thing yesterday. The waves are big enough, but the water is too shallow and the bottom surface is way too aggressive. The water is not deep enough to swim in, and when the waves (which are far too big for that depth of water) knocks you over, the pool floor wants to take some skin with it.

So in an effort to make sure that nobody can possibly drown, they've set things up so that people get hurt by other means. Greaaaaaaat. Just based on my waterpark experience, I think I am glad I've not bothered with the beach.

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July 26, 2010, 3:55P

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I've been to Soak City but never in Breakers Bay. Does it have the huge ocean-like Typhoon Lagoon type waves or calmer rocking Wildwater Kingdom type waves?


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July 26, 2010, 3:59P

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We had the same issue with the wave pool at castaway bay. The floor of the pool was like rough sandpaper. We got a few scapes on our knees from it.

Not to mention the hitlers in bathing suites they had watching over the small wave pool. I don't think a full min went by, where the wistle was not blown.


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Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
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July 26, 2010, 4:50P

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I was on a beach near Ft Lauderdale a few weeks back and the lifeguards there were whistling in people who venture too far out. Now, the ocean floor was pretty shallow, so much so that I could have walked out much futher then the lifeguards were willing to let me go. I have to assume that at some point you put the lifeguard at risk if you get too far away...or risk the lives of others who might get into trouble when the lifeguard is WAY out trying to save you.

That said, I know the CP swim area is significantly smaller than it need be. I don't know if that is because they are worried about boats or something else. How far down can you see in that water? I would think that might be a greater issue if in fact someone goes under. At least at the beaches in South Florida you can see down to the bottom pretty easily.

As for Castaway Cay and the wavepool there I didn't have any issues with it but my little guy wasn't venturing out too far anyway.

I remember at the Geauga Lake wave pool you could go in nearly to the "wave" wall. But, it was tough in there once the waves got going. I was a strong swimmer as a kid but I remember getting worn out in there pretty quickly. The one at Dover Lake park (was that what it was called) was even more demanding.


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July 26, 2010, 4:53P

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I dont mind them yelling at people. Yea people are there to have fun, but at the same time they tend to lose there brains. Hence traping people under tubes. Body surfing into other people. Not paying attention where they turn and jump. I watch one guy try to catch a wave turn and jump into the wall. That was pretty Bloody. Plus don't forget what happened at the Kalahari not to long ago with the kid drowning. I can see why they are on edge.

As for the beaches that are public not being able to sue anyone that is false. This weekend alone along lake michigan we had 4 people drowned and one in critical condition. The parents of someof them are already gearing up to sue the cities that those beaches are in. They maybe public but the cities and the states maintain them. Yes the beaches have signs that say no life gaurd on duty swim at your own risk but that doesnt mean they arent gonna get sued.

Last edited by Matt D, July 26, 2010, 4:53P

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July 26, 2010, 4:58P

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I doubt those lawsuits will get far. Beaches all down the coast were red flagged (i.e. no swimming) all weekend due to the storm systems.

So yes, someone can still "sue" for their relative dying on a public beach, but they won't get nearly as far as someone who dies in a designated and life guarded swimming area on a privately operated beach.


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July 26, 2010, 4:59P

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That's what I am talking about^^^.

Nobody wants to take personal responsabilty for things anymore. There were signs posted. They knew the risks, and yet they still decided to use the beach. Nobody forced them to swim at the beach.

Why should the state, or anybody else be at fault? SWIM AT YOUR OWN RISK...That means exactly what it says.

It's gotten waaaaayyy out of hand in this country.


what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

July 26, 2010, 7:49P

Re: Cedar point beach, what would you do?

Miss_Maverick07 said:
I have been going to the CP beach for a while, at least once during each visit to the park. I dont like the beach rules, with the use of a tiny roped off area to swim, where you are not allowed to splash friends, run, toss a ball,

Splashing is truly annoying and childish and tossing a ball could hit someone or go far into the lake so I say no on those 2 things.

Breakers Bay is pretty bad on the bottom of the pool. Typhoon Lagoon has to be the worst though. WildWater Kingdom at Dorney Park has a great bottom on their wave pool. It is so soft and smooth. All you hear in Breakers Bay at Soak City is "get off the wall" or "get behind the ropes". They should seriously open up the ropes to like 5 feet at least.


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