Cedar Point fans debate new Fast Lane passes

About six or seven percent of park visitors bought a Fast Lane pass opening weekend.


Monday, May 14, 2012 3:34 PM


Fast Lane allows guests to jump to the front of the line of Cedar Point's major rides.

But Fast Lane already has an enemies list. A boycott Cedar Point page popped up on Facebook, and the park's fan forums were all abuzz with people who think Fast Lane favors the rich.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:40 AM
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Pointbuzz makes the BIG TIME!!!111oneoneone

haha love this story. People amaze me. 'Well what if some people don't have $50' well then they don't buy the fast pass you tool and they wait in line.

Nice plug for the site though!


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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:09 AM
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My favorite comment:

For those who complain they can't afford the added cost of a Fast Lane, her husband Joe added, "Go get a part time job and save up."


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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:29 AM

I feel bad for big families who can only come on a Saturday, but with only 6-10% of people purchasing Fast Lane, it's not like it is significantly increasing wait times for those who cant afford it.

I took my family to Universal Orlando this year and we stayed on park, so we got "Fast Pass" access to all the rides at both parks. It made a difference for us when it was busy, but there's no way I would have paid for it separately.

I have been a CP Season Pass holder off and on for 17 years and have yet to come to Cedar Point on a Saturday (outside of Halloweekends).

In the 7 times we went last year, the maximum wait time was 45 min for Millie. It's not worth the $$ to me.

My point - if you can only come on Saturday, and can afford it, it is probably worth the money, if you don't have the money, find another time to come.


Platinum has it's perks. So does living exactly 97.5 miles from King's Island and Cedar Point

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:47 AM
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...Fast Lane favors the rich.

So does Lamborghini.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:08 AM

You don't have to be "rich" to afford Fast Lane. But being rich does make it easier to afford. Though thats true of anything that costs money. Including Cedar Point last season (and every season before that).

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:11 AM
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You also don't have to be rich to be my girl.


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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:31 AM
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+1

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:13 AM
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+1 Walt!

Fast Lane, i guess i am in the neutral category on this, i just never saw the issue with the lines being extrememly long to the point of this system being needed, minus the 4th of July and Halloweekend Saturdays, but that is to be expected.

Besides the nasty stamps and grease marker, wouldn't you think the FreeWay system was the better way to go without really impacting the people in the regular line? Limited amount of people per hour per ride offered, with having to ride in that hour or you are SOL. I can see the re-riding with the Fast Lane really impacting the regular line when the summer crowds come, and Halloweekend Saturdays, but if they aren't going to regulate it, you might as well do it.

I'd rather just see the system scrapped, and go back to the "old" ways of everyone wait to ride. I just don't know when everyone started going to amusement parks and not expect to have to wait in line to ride.

Last edited by JW Addington, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:23 AM

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:09 AM

Honestly, once the season moves on, I don't know if this will be as big of an issue.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:19 AM

People buying Lamborghinis are having no impact on me driving my Mustang. That person does not get to go to the same place I am trying to more times. We both have the same speed limits. We both use the same roads. There is no exotic sports car lane. As for the first class seats on airplanes, they only gain big comfy seats in the front of the plane...They don't get to ride to the same location several times in the time I get there once.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:21 AM
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I have a large family and we mob up at CP in a large group of around 40. And we almost always go to the park two days. We've already talked about getting the FL pass for one day instead of a two day trip to the park because it'll be roughly the same cost. What this could impact CPs bottom line is this scenario. Instead of spending the same amount on the 'gate' and spending in the park for two days, they'll get a family like mine out the door in one day, one less night at the Breakers, basically cutting our spending in half except for the admission. And with all the free time from not waiting in line, our experience will be about the same as we're used to as well.

As far as the Lambo/Mustang debate, that guy is pulling more tail than you, and at a faster rate.

Last edited by vwhoward, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:27 AM

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:33 AM
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Zoug68 said:
People buying Lamborghinis are having no impact on me driving my Mustang. That person does not get to go to the same place I am trying to more times. We both have the same speed limits. We both use the same roads. There is no exotic sports car lane.

You're missing the point. You have no existential or constitutionally guaranteed right to attend a "fair" Cedar Point. You either feel the value proposition is acceptable, or not. It's that simple. Don't like going to CP while they have FL? Go to a state park instead.

They don't get to ride to the same location several times in the time I get there once.

But they do get to board and de-plane before others, while those "others" have to wait. So yeah, first class does impact business and coach classes.


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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:44 AM

I'm sorry, if Cedar point is trying to appeal to families and get them to want to come over and over...this is NOT going to do it. They sound like they only want you if you have a lot of extra money to spend.

As for planes, we all end up being on that plane for pretty close to the same amount of time. First class is on that plane long before I get on. If the plane gets stuck on the runway, we all get stuck on the runway. If Dragster breaks down, Fast Lane users may have ridden it 3 times and others that got in line at the same time might not have gotten to ride it at all.

The thing that may sound strange to many on here is that I actually have the money to buy this pass but will not because it is just wrong. What was once an act that could get you thrown out of the park is now something you can pay them to let you do. And the system they are using is a very poor one. Six Flags' system sounds much better and is more expensive. So fewer would use it.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:49 AM

I think Fast Lane is underpriced. Compare it to the Flash Pass at SF Great America: $45 lets you wait the same estimated time as the standby queue but without physically being there; $65 for a shorter wait; $95 for a very minimal wait, plus immediate re-riding. And that last one is $120 at Great Adventure.

What Fast Lane has done is given people what is effectively an exit pass for a mere $50. That's extremely generous. A year ago, that would've cost you $375 for a VIP tour. So no, I don't think it's unfair to limit the number of times you can ride Dragster per day, or to have the ride ops not send entire trains full of Fast Lane users until the FL queue is empty. You're still getting a significant time savings even if you have to wait a few trains for your turn. It's amazing the attitude of entitlement people can get for just $50.

I do believe they'll get the kinks worked out in time. They had the same problems at Kings Dominion opening weekend, and not too long after, they limited Volcano rides by marking the FL wristband. But the first step is admitting that the kinks exist, which many people here aren't willing to do.

I actually like Six Flags' Flash Pass system, and I wish Cedar Fair would've just gone with Lo-Q instead. Maybe they will, in time.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:58 AM
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Are Fastlane passes only available online and at the gate or can you buy them once inside the park? If so what are the locations that sell these in the park?


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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:16 PM
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Zoug68 said:
They sound like they only want you if you have a lot of extra money to spend.

Well, duh. :) They are a business, after all.

As for planes...

You're still missing the point, which is that in both scenarios, a different/improved experience can be had if you're willing fork over the extra money.

...I actually have the money to buy this pass but will not because it is just wrong.

Well, that's just plain silly.


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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:16 PM
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You can purchase Fast Lane through out the park. The larger stores are marked on the map and all the stores that sell them have large advertisement outside the building.

Pagoda, Shoot the Rapids store, Cedar Creek Trading Shop, Speed Zone, Park Operations, Thunder Canyon shop, Joe Cool store.


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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:56 PM

But, by using Fast Lane passes, enjoyment is now being taken away from those who cannot afford it compared to what they got only last year. It isn't as though they built separate rides for people that buy those passes.
This pass is far too inexpensive for enough that it may make other guests' experiences less enjoyable than their past experiences may have been and yet they are still being asked to pay more to get in the park in the first place.
While attendance could be exactly the same, you pay more, but ride less.
I'm not saying they can't have a Fast Lane, but it needs serious tweaking. Unlimited riding is ridiculous. I spent at least $1000 there last year. I won't spend $1 there unless they reform this system to have a less negative impact on those who cannot take advantage of it. But I guess, as long as they sell 20 of these passes at full price, they won't need my business.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:05 PM
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Zoug68 said:
But, by using Fast Lane passes, enjoyment is now being taken away from those who cannot afford it compared to what they got only last year.

The same is true when they raise admission prices. Someone, somewhere, is "priced out" of being able to attend CP every time the gate is raised.

This pass is far too inexpensive for enough that it may make other guests' experiences less enjoyable than their past experiences...

While I agree FL is under priced (and the same is true of the gate and especially the season pass), no one is in any position to suggest what FL's impact will be. The park has been open for 3 whole days. Give it time.

Unlimited riding is ridiculous.

No way. I'd agree that FL should be priced higher, but limiting rides would be idiotic.

I do have to point out that if FL cost more, there would be a whole other poopstorm of comments about how only the super-upper-middle class can afford it.


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