It looks like we are picking up the tab this year for The Breakers construction. OUCH!

2014 7/2/2014 - 7/5/2014 (3 nights) in a Deluxe Cabin Lighthouse point $1,290.89 USD DOLLARS

2015 7/2/2015 - 7/5/2015 (3 nights) in a Deluxe Cabin Lighthouse point $1,592.44 USD DOLLARS

$301 increase in one year for the same room on same dates.

:(

djDaemon's avatar

Two things:

First, that's not an "oranges:oranges" comparison, as you're staying an additional weekend night this year, and weekend nights are always substantially more expensive. So it's not really the "same dates".

Second, that they were cheaper last year doesn't mean they should have been. I've long thought that, for the most part, CP resorts were leaving money on the table. Honestly, for lodging that accommodates 10 people, has a kitchen, on the 4th of July weekend, $530/night is completely reasonable.

Let's assume two families of 3 or 4 each. At $265/family/night, those accommodations are a steal.

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Brandon

I am not sure how that come up with the "10" number as it only has 3 real beds.

As for the pricing

Thu. Jul 03, 2014

$320.00
$39.20
$359.20

Fri. Jul 04, 2014
$340.00
$41.65
$381.65

Sat. Jul 05, 2014
$320.00
$39.20
$359.20

Thu. Jul 02, 2015

$455.00
$53.46
$508.46

Fri. Jul 03, 2015
$485.00
$56.99
$541.99

Sat. Jul 04, 2015
$485.00
$56.99
$541.99

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noggin's avatar

Cedarpoint.com, deluxe cabin description: "- Accommodates up to 10 guests".

According to the description, the cabin has five double- or queen-sized beds ("real" or not), so it would be able to accommodate ten guests.

Pete's avatar

Those prices don't seem out of line to me. I just spent $309 per night for a standard hotel room with 2 queen beds at the ski resort I'm at today. 4 people max.


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than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

I have stayed in the deluxe cabin twice. It had 2 queens in the loft. A bedroom with a queen or double - can't recall. Then maybe the couch pulls out? I am just saying that 10 is a very aggressive #.

Pete I have indeed stayed at more expensive hotels as well. :) I was just noting the cost increase in one season.

Jeff's avatar

The title of this thread is a little thick with hyperbole. The Breakers renovation was paid for by the sale of the water park out in San Diego.

That said, they room pricing used to be too high considering the condition of the rooms, but now that they're nice again, they would have been too low. The cabins I believe had all of the bedding replaced last year. And really, I think you smartly charge whatever you can get away with on a holiday weekend.


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noggin's avatar

According to the website: three queen-sized beds (two in loft) and two double-sized futon sleeper sofas.

And yes -- if that's the price you're willing to pay, that's the price they should charge.

For location and convenience, I always thought pricing of Breakers was perfect. Typically, a college student with a part time minimum wage job wouldn't be able to afford it on the regular, but I look at Cedar Point resorts as a family destination (assuming the household income is enough to afford a weekend trip).

Which water park did Cedar Fair sell?

Cedar Fair sold off Knott's Soak City near San Diego to finance the Hotel Breakers renovation project.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Real-Estate/2013/12/04/Cedar-Fair-begins...ark-1.html

Kevinj's avatar

I have no idea if it's correct, but I have often heard that Cedar Point's on-site properties are very often either completely sold out or extremely close during the park's peak season. Is that accurate?

It's pretty common for properties to have a max capacity that one might find "pushing it".

We recently stayed in a family suite at Disney that advertised sleeping for 6, and there are 4 of us (two adults, two little children)...and I would not want another human being in there with us. Technically, though, it could sleep 6, as there was a master bedroom, a sleeper-sofa, and a lion-king-table-transforms-into-a-bed-bed.

I don't know.

I guess from my perspective, if someone is willing to pay 1300 bucks to stay on site, they are also probably willing to pay 1600. I would assume this is precisely the business logic CP is using. Of course the consumer may not like the change, but it also most likely doesn't matter in the long run, as most people who it would matter to are not paying that much to begin with...they are off the point in a cheaper motel. My bet is that most people who booked at last year's rate would also book at this years.

Especially during the peak of the peak times at the park.

I would be interested to see, as a comparison, if less exclusive properties increased at the same rate for the same time period, for example Breakers Express or properties that are not so pricey to begin with.

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noggin's avatar

I don't think there's much "probably" involved. They'll raise the prices as high as their research and analysis suggest will meet the sweet spot between making more money and not driving away customers.

Here are a couple calculations that a good hotel manager will be well aware of:

Number of rooms______Nightly rate_________Average Occupancy rate

100___________X_____$200_________X_________95%_____________=___$19,000

100___________X_____$300_________X_________70%_____________= ___$21,000

I know these calculations are overly simplified, but they do show there is more factors in play than just maxing out occupancy.

Does anybody think that it might have to do with rougarou, renovations, and demolition of the good time theatre?

noggin's avatar

I think it has to do with making money.

Looks like Breakers Express rooms got a bit of a refresh according to the website pics. I like the coaster pics they added above the beds and they finally now have flat screen TV's in the rooms. Welcome to 2015!

Thabto's avatar

Breakers Express rooms are nicely priced. I was thinking about staying there after preview night and going into the park Saturday morning on opening day. It's almost the same price as Comfort Inn on Cleveland St. in Huron. Breakers is out of my price range, but if it was in my budget, I'd be more than happy to pay for it for the convenience factor alone.


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Sollybeast's avatar

I think it's totally affordable, if you want to go bad enough and you save your pennies. I mean I have a steady but part-time job and I've been going and staying at the Breakers (for three days/two nights no less) for the last three years (this will be my fourth). I book WAY in advance, use Easy Pay (which is a godsend), and by the time my trip rolls around (ONE MORE MONTH) I have my room and tickets paid for and enough spending money to get me through the week.

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Proud 5th Liner and CP fan since 1986.

I do not think the hotel is that overpriced, considering how everything will be new, its right next to the park, and all the new activities around the hotel including the fire pits, beach parties, etc. I booked a room in July for 3 nights (thur, fri, sat) for a total of $464 plus tax. I got a similar room for a Friday and Saturday night in October for $278 plus tax. $828 with tax, for 5 nights, in 2 prime months, with 4 days being weekend days cannot be beat.

JW Addington's avatar

Please share how you got such good rates. I see nothing even close to those rates.


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