Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:44 AM
Cedar Fair executives reported that early season-pass sales are up more than 50%, largely because of the popularity of the new Gold Pass at Cedar Point, which some guests complained caused monster crowds at the park this fall.
Cedar Fair CEO Richard Zimmerman acknowledged parkgoers’ concerns in a third-quarter earnings call with analysts Wednesday, promising improvements to Cedar Point parking, entry and exit from the park, food and beverage offerings, and restrooms.
I hope the restroom improvements includes a Zero G Stall
Wait they can't make any improvements. No way to do it. Yes, promises, promises.
promising improvements to Cedar Point parking, entry and exit from the park, food and beverage offerings, and restrooms.
The obviously easy improvements (which are long time coming without any reason for them to be as bad as they are) would be to : food and beverage offerings, and restrooms.
The much more difficult promises (due to lack of land to expand these services): promising improvements to Cedar Point parking, entry and exit from the park.
Of course, improvements, can come in varying forms. However, without any substantial way to expand parking spaces and ingress/egress whatever bandaids are used in the name of improvement will likely have a negligible effect on customer experience. They could add parking in the far corner of the property where Sandcastle once was, but that's a far distance to get in to the closest gate and will only add to the perimeter road problems of ingress/egress.
Any major addressing of alternate access to the park would take years of planning and a very large investment for construction. So while I wholeheartedly welcome any improvements they do to address the problems at hand, using the phraseology 'promising improvements to Cedar Point parking, entry and exit from the park' seems an over promising of what can be rationally done, especially with the announcement of the massive pass sales increase for 2020.
Cedar Point adding 2 more lanes of traffic on the causeway would be helpful, but that is not going to happen.
What they will do is add more staff into the parking division helping getting cars into the parking lot.
That is where the bottleneck is.
First, put an opening in right after the single Chuasee toll booth, then there will not be a stop and go from the Causeway traffic, they both could flow into the parking without stopping.
Bottleneck # 1 eliminated.
Add more staff to direct people where to park their cars.
When I left on Saturday 10/12 and 10/05 at around 4:30, the causeway was backed up to the "Thirsty Pony". It looked like a 1-1/2 to 2 hour journey to just park your car, which it was.
However when I was leaving, I left from the Cedar Point Shores parking gate, there were empty spaces back there, untouched overfill parking behind Magnum's pretzel turn, untouched overfill parking behind Steel Vengeance.
I saw spot after spot but no one directing traffic to locations. As I exited the parking lot the area next to the Causeway toll booths was empty but no one going over there to park their cars because they were not being directed over there, causing the huge delay.
Certainly with better parking staff operations the drive in would have been better.
1)Food & beverage improvements have been across the chain the last 3 years & an emphasis(investor presentations/analsyst day) Almost every park has received new restaurants, CP 2 last year.
2)Cedar Point only has parking issues a hand full of days in 150 day operation schedule. The likely problem days July & early August weekends and Halloweekends saturdays. That's literally about 10 to 15 days max & even then the only real complaints were 1 october Saturday. Wouldn't expect much other than maybe having more traffic directors & parking lot attendants. Anything major will have to involve the town or state & take time, beyond 2020 season. They already make employees park off site on expected busy days. Don't see the need to expand parking really for a few packed days.
3)The biggest thing to me was restroom improvements as I send emails yearly suggesting it & I know others do to.
Many of you stated that the parking improvements would be minimal because it will take years of planning to implement large scale ideas.
Cedar Point operates off of a five year plan....which likely means whatever improvements are coming were decided on before this season even started.
Parking improvements could be planned out already. I never stated otherwise, and even gave a suggestion of the old sandcastle land.
That would be relatively inexpensive, compared to adding alternate access to the peninsula, and could be accomplish in an off season. It would however exacerbate traffic issues on perimeter road.
Another potential lot would be the former Cedars land, that wouldn’t likely add large parking increase and would be another congestion point on perimeter road.
Properly staffing will help, even returning to parking operations as they were under Mr. Hildebrandt would be a great plus. But with attendance increases they are expecting with the mass pass sales it will still be a big problem.
That still leaves the causeway as the choke point, with no clear viable solution. Any solution to that problem will take local and state cooperation and possibly federal approvals as well. That type of planning isn’t secret by nature and would be readily available.
I wonder if there will be more "new" resturaunts this upcoming season. We have the all-season dining and ended up almost ONLY eating at Hugo's or BackBeatQue because their food was clearly superior than the other stalls. Especially with the 4 hour eating schedule, we didn't want to waste our meal and an inferior meal
I don't think there will be a new restaurant in 2020. A bunch of places could use menu changes. Miss Keats menu changed for the worse when they moved the Brisket to BackBeat, now the only thing I get their is the ribs. I always eat at Backbeat, Hugos mainly, occasionally Buckaroo Burrito & Ms. KeatsLast edited by CED23, Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:04 PM
I agree with the above statement. Perhaps changing the menu and quality of food to the existing food stands before building more NEW restaurants.
But it seems that they only invested the improved menu into new resturaunts. Would love to see more of that!
I would like to see a few items from the Melt menu added to the food plan.
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I'd just like to see them bring back the caramel apple sundae. Taking the hot caramel apples away from the custard stand in Frontiertown is a decision I still don't understand.
For parking, have they abolished "preferred" parking yet? At least they have held parking at $20 which is one bill, no change.
Back in 1995, they created an evening traffic nightmare with the Summer Spectacular right at closing time; everybody stayed for the show, then left when it was over. They fixed that by staying open until11pm most nights (the show ended at 10:30) which spread the departure over half an hour. I wonder if similar crowd management tactics might help with the current traffic and parking issues.
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Dave brings up a good point, which I’ve mentioned a few times. HalloWeekends becomes such a clusterF to leave at the end of the night because late night is the big attraction. Everyone stays till the end, or close to it. In the summer There is a steady stream of people leaving the last few hours of the night which smooths out the exit traffic.
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