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Friday, April 5, 2019 11:18 AM
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^^Well look out, because I live in the Chicagoland area. So I'm basically bringing a war zone to the park every time I come.


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Friday, April 5, 2019 4:52 PM
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djDaemon said:

Oh, good. For a second I was worried people were stereotyping a population of 4.3 million based on the actions of a few people.

I know it may seem rude to you but forgive us. Here in Ohio we've eliminated crime, all our schools are well funded, and we never have issues with drinking water. Hell people are moving back here in droves! So perhaps we have gotten a little elitist.


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Friday, April 5, 2019 7:45 PM
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Eliminated crime....

Thanks for the laugh


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Friday, April 5, 2019 8:34 PM

Well funded schools...

I laughed so hard I fell off the chair!

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Friday, April 5, 2019 8:56 PM

Concerns of tereotyping? Pot meet kettle, but we won’t go there ;)

I’m just simply saying, if Ohio is as bad as some claim it to be, then perhaps stick with Michigan’s Adventure and stay out of Ohio.

But yes, Detroit Day has never been an enjoyable experience for many employees both at CP and PIB. It’s not stereotyping, it’s just what the experience was. Unenjoyable.

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Saturday, April 6, 2019 7:25 AM
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operative_me said:
I know it may seem rude to you but forgive us.

It's hard to get a read on whether you're being sarcastic. On one hand you're claiming Ohio somehow eliminated crime which is, you know, hilarious. But then you pivot to water quality, which is a legit issue.

TwistedWicker77 said:
Concerns of tereotyping? Pot meet kettle, but we won’t go there ;)

Where have I stereotyped Ohio?

It’s not stereotyping, it’s just what the experience was. Unenjoyable.

No, it's definitely stereotyping, based entirely on confirmation bias apparently.


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Saturday, April 6, 2019 8:48 AM

No, again, it’s not stereotyping. Just saying that Detroit Day isn’t an enjoyable experience for a multitude of reasons. No need to read too far into it and make it more of a political matter.

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Saturday, April 6, 2019 11:24 AM
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djDaemon said:

operative_me said:
I know it may seem rude to you but forgive us.

It's hard to get a read on whether you're being sarcastic. On one hand you're claiming Ohio somehow eliminated crime which is, you know, hilarious. But then you pivot to water quality, which is a legit issue.

I was totally being sarcastic. The water quality line was in reference to Toledo a year or two ago having to shut down city water due to an algae bloom. And yes, I know if you have to explain a joke it sucks. So there you go.

Personally, I have no problems with our neighbors up north (except a certain school's sports teams in Ann Arbor). I know a lot of good people from Detroit and Michigan in general. I've gone to Red Wings games at the Joe in full Blackhawks gear and had no problems aside from the typical trash talking, but I expected that.

I think a lot of people's perception has been skewed from the stories last summer of a bunch of buses from Detroit (and Cincinnati) tearing up Put In Bay and getting in a fight on the ferry. s#!t happens, people need to get over it.

At least you admitted I am hilarious.

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Saturday, April 6, 2019 1:33 PM
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TwistedWicker77 said:

I’m just simply saying, if Ohio is as bad as some claim it to be, then perhaps stick with Michigan’s Adventure and stay out of ohio.

I'm wondering where along the conversation that any of us implied this.....


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Saturday, April 6, 2019 2:01 PM

Implications are implicitly implied to be argumentative quite often here on Pointbuzz, even if they’re a figment of the posters imagination.

Last edited by XS NightClub, Saturday, April 6, 2019 2:20 PM

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Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:16 PM

^ THIS

Because I don’t remember anybody saying that anyone on PB implied this.

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Monday, April 8, 2019 3:32 PM
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TwistedWicker77 said:

No, again, it’s not stereotyping.

PM your address and I'll send you a dictionary for your birthday. ;-)


Brandon

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Monday, April 8, 2019 7:05 PM

I always thought thats what you called using a split keyboard.

Last edited by XS NightClub, Monday, April 8, 2019 7:13 PM

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Monday, April 8, 2019 7:58 PM

This definition is taken from vocabulary.com (mainly because I’m lazy and clicked on the first link, but this definition is basically it...):
“A stereotype is a preconceived notion, especially about a group of people. Many stereotypes are racist, sexist, or homophobic.”

So where does me saying Detroit Day was not an enjoyable experience (when I was there to experience it) make me stereotyping? I find it no different than you claiming the coaster enthusiasts at Coastermania are rude, ungrateful, and big complainers, no?

In no way did I say a specific group was bad. Let’s not make it more than what it is or put words in my mouth.

EDIT: unless you were referring to this post:

TwistedWicker77 said:

CPNostalgia said:

TwistedWicker77 said:
Oh cool, Detroit day all season long....

Are we really that bad?

Short answer, YES! Is everybody from there “that” bad? Absolutely not. But the Lake Erie Shores and Islands are better off if it’s kept to Ohioans ;)

Then perhaps we can refer to the smiley that implies I was joking.

So maybe we can finally put this tired discussion to rest.

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Monday, April 8, 2019 8:41 PM
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Fact is, rude people with bad behavior live in all places. If Cedar Fair thought of us Michiganders as bad people, I highly doubt they would create such a deal exclusive to us only. At the end of the day, or season for that matter, we Michigan folks spend quite a bit of money there.

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Monday, April 8, 2019 8:52 PM

I agree rude people exist everywhere. Which is why I am simply pointing out that nowhere have I stereotyped anybody from a specific location other than my joke that obviously hasn’t been taken as a joke.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:44 AM
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TwistedWicker77 said:

So where does me saying Detroit Day was not an enjoyable experience (when I was there to experience it) make me stereotyping?

...

In no way did I say a specific group was bad.

In your first comment in this thread (about a marketing deal targeted toward Michigan residents), you said "Oh cool, Detroit day all season long...." Obviously the implication is a deal targeting the 4.8 million Metro Detroit residents would inevitably result in the bad antics from "Detroit Day" (which apparently included Ohio residents as well). You are quite literally taking your preconceived notion of a very small group of visitors and applying it to a huge group of people.

That is stereotyping according to the definition you yourself posted:

A stereotype is a preconceived notion, especially about a group of people.


Brandon

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 1:28 AM

While this thread is a prime example-
Another with twisted implied logic can be found, but is not even remotely limited to this thread, here:
https://pointbuzz.com/Forums/Topic/designated-smoking-areas

You’ll find similarly posted arguments

Last edited by XS NightClub, Wednesday, April 10, 2019 1:41 AM

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:10 AM

^^ Wow, that’s a far reach there. I’ll say it again: let’s not make it more than what it is just for the sake of wanting to argue. But most importantly, let’s also not attempt to wrongfully call others out for being hypocritical of basically the same thing.

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:00 AM
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I'm not making it more than what it was. It was stereotyping the entirety of Metro Detroit/Michigan residents as preventing "an enjoyable experience" based on the purported behavior of a small group of Detroit and Cincinnati residents last year or whenever. You can say it wasn't that, but that doesn't make it so. And you can try and say it was a joke, but that also doesn't pass the smell test. But, you know, nice try. :-)

Is the stereotyping a big deal? Nah, not really. More fascinating to me is the refusal to acknowledge that it was stereotyping.


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