Local officials seek solutions to traffic volume

In Sandusky and Huron, heavy Cedar Point traffic has become the norm during the fall.


Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:08 PM


High traffic volume on the weekends has become the norm this fall, clogging roads in Sandusky and Huron.

Local officials are pursuing a study to possibly overhaul Cleveland Road between Sycamore Line in Sandusky and Rye Beach Road in Huron.

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Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:36 PM
HeyIsntThatRob?'s avatar

After getting stuck in the Cedar Point Shores lot on 4th of July until 3am several years ago I solved the traffic issue myself by not going during peak times.

The problem is there's limited land to work with on figuring out how to funnel in cars that need to pay for parking. With the Gold Pass including parking, I wonder if that could be part of a solution on eliminating that stop to pay at the booths. If that's the case, its possible to route traffic to specific booths based on the need to pay for parking or not. But then again, people would need to read signs and in my experience, people don't read signs.

As far as leaving the park, I don't have anything to add. They adjust how many lanes are open in each direction on the causeway during the day. Widening the causeway is probably not an option given the limited land and I'm imagining that it would take an act of God and lots of money to allow more land to be added to the width of the causeway.

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Thursday, October 17, 2019 5:37 PM

I’m all for adding $20 to park admission and eliminating the long line to pay for parking. But then you run into the “my children aren’t old enough to drive, so why do they have to pay the extra $20”. You’re almost at a stalemate with this debate.

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Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:57 PM
XS NightClub's avatar

Same argument could be made that shorter people can’t ride half the stuff in the park... yet they still have to pay.
Along with people over 6’6”, obese people, bodybuilders, etc....


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Friday, October 18, 2019 8:39 AM

We went to Kings Island a couple weeks ago, they had a scanner in the parking lane that allowed you to just scan your pass for access. Why not something like that at CP, perhaps a lane or two dedicated for passholders. Similar to EZ Pass lanes on the turnpike?

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Friday, October 18, 2019 10:32 AM
e x i t english's avatar

Barring an entire causeway widening, which I think would be more than cost prohibitive, maybe expanding the parking booths and adding more lanes, with automated gates, would be an option. I don't know how much land is off to the right of the furthest booth, but I'd imagine that widening there, and a short way back to allow for lanes to split off would be much less expensive.

A big part of the hold up, that I've noticed, is that people treat the parking booths like guest services and tend to ask a bunch of questions, meaning they park in that spot for an extra minute or so, which causes a backup. Might not be a big deal if one or 2 cars do it, but 50, 60? 100 cars over the course of 20 minutes? That adds up and causes people to sit.

Whenever I get on the causeway now, I always get in the left lane - not because I know the left booth is usually quicker (sometimes it's not), but to give myself an "escape route", should I decide to go do something else for a while before coming back. I can't imagine being trapped in the right lane with no possible alternative other than gridlock.


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Friday, October 18, 2019 12:54 PM
Paisley's avatar

I get stuck behind people who take forever at the booth too so an automated lane for passholders might help ease things a little bit but I don't think that's going to help the Rt. 6 back up sometimes I've waited in that only to find the causeway itself moving very well. During the regular season going at non peak times is a whole lot easier during HalloWeekends this year there really has been no non peak time and unless we get some iffy weather which doesn't seem likely at this point there will be no nonpeak time for people who want to avoid traffic. Unless you arrive an hour before early entry and hang out in the parking lot.

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Friday, October 18, 2019 2:21 PM

I have said it before this is a simple supply and demand problem. Add more supply….. As Cedar Point becomes a destination and not just a regional theme park they need to add more days to the calendar. In the fall I see one 70° day after another go by and the part is closed. Oh you say the kids are back in school I say good. l can take a day without them. How about all day Friday. Columbus Day (Monday) and maybe coaster Thursdays for people who could care less about HalloWeekends. Does anybody think it’s fun to spend all day Saturday to get four coasters and maybe three other rides in 12 hours at the park. Then face a 2 hour ride out of Sandusky. if you create larger roads you only create a worse time at the park.

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Friday, October 18, 2019 2:34 PM
HeyIsntThatRob?'s avatar

The other side of that supply problem is a lack of another park option in the region to visit. :-D

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Friday, October 18, 2019 4:26 PM
jimmyburke's avatar

exit english suggested more booths off to the right. That sounds good except for the fact that once vehicles make it through the 8 or so existing booths, they then have to merge back into 2 lanes 1000' ahead. I think many of these suggestions, such as "EZ Pass" type lanes all have some merit. But they are just bandaids when you require a tourniquet.

Over the next 10 years or so there will likely be modifications to the booth areas, modifications to Rt. 6 from Rye Beach Rd. (sorry Maples), and from the west as well. What is unlikely is widening of the Causeway, such a major project with U.S. Army Corps of Engineers involvement. Hey, how about constructing a "twin" causeway, one for entry, one for exit? Richard Zimmerman Causeway!

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Friday, October 18, 2019 4:29 PM

Bozman said:

, perhaps a lane or two dedicated for passholders. Similar to EZ Pass lanes on the turnpike?

I do a lot of travel and use EZPass for most of it, and not a single trip goes by where some idiot didn't read the "EZ PASS ONLY" sign and now they have 6 cars+ backed up behind them.


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Friday, October 18, 2019 5:55 PM
operative_me's avatar

C'mon, you all know there is one solution to all of this...


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Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:44 AM

When the park is open during the week I always go at off-peak times. Hotel rates are reasonable, with less traffic and walk-up rides. This also works well given my line of work.

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Saturday, October 19, 2019 2:41 PM

J Kreitz said:

As Cedar Point becomes a destination and not just a regional theme park they need to add more days to the calendar. In the fall I see one 70° day after another go by and the part is closed. Oh you say the kids are back in school I say good. l can take a day without them. How about all day Friday. Columbus Day (Monday) and maybe coaster Thursdays for people who could care less about HalloWeekends.

Finding people to work those extra days would be impossible. And a couple hundred enthusiasts and groups of adults would hardly make it a profitable venture.

If there was money to be made and a way to have the park open, they would do it.

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Saturday, October 19, 2019 3:15 PM

XS NightClub said:
Same argument could be made that shorter people can’t ride half the stuff in the park... yet they still have to pay.
Along with people over 6’6”, obese people, bodybuilders, etc....

Ahh very true. I like the way you think.

In terms of which lane I get in on the causeway, I opt for the far right because there are 3 toll booths (sometimes 4 if they use the residence access lane as a toll booth) on the right side that allow a shorter wait.

I do have a feeling that the causeway will get some type of redo in the future. Not quite sure what it will entail and not sure what type of restrictions they’d run into along the way. Cedar Point is just a very unique spot considering it’s location. All I know is that the crowded parking lot at both the beginning and end of the day really sets the tone or leaves the lasting memory for the GP’s day.

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Saturday, October 19, 2019 5:48 PM
Cargo Shorts's avatar

The scanners at KI can be very finicky and one can get through a manned booth at CP much faster than at KI scanner only lane. However you can’t ask a scanner a bunch of questions so there is that.

The only solution is non-English speaking toll booth attendants. :). Shouldn't be too hard to find a caravan or two of them.

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Saturday, October 19, 2019 5:59 PM
Thabto's avatar

I think they should widen Route 6 all the way to Rye Beach Rd to 4 lanes. And maybe replace the stop lights at the end of the causeway and on First Street with roundabouts. They should also knock down the current tollbooths they look pretty crappy anyway and move them up closer towards the parking lot allowing more lanes to be added with self-scan like at KI. Then they could redo the entry area past the toolbooths to make traffic flow more smoothly, like maybe force cars on the left side to turn to the left, cars in the center lanes go straight through and ones on the right turn to the right and enter the right part of the parking lot.


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Sunday, October 20, 2019 9:28 AM
e x i t english's avatar

jimmyburke said:
exit english suggested more booths off to the right. That sounds good except for the fact that once vehicles make it through the 8 or so existing booths, they then have to merge back into 2 lanes 1000' ahead.

Well, of course it would entail fixing all of that. I figured that was implied when talking about revamping the toll booths entirely. It’s not as simple as just slapping more booths in, but I’m not a traffic engineer so I won’t even bother wasting my time on trying to figure out how to manage the flow after the fact, because I’d be way off.


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Sunday, October 20, 2019 1:49 PM

Thabto said:
I think they should widen Route 6 all the way to Rye Beach Rd to 4 lanes. And maybe replace the stop lights at the end of the causeway and on First Street with roundabouts.

Count me in as someone who votes AGAINST roundabouts. If you think there were plenty of traffic accidents yesterday during that ridiculous traffic jam, one could only imagine how much of a mess your typical enthusiasts would create by entering a roundabout.

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Sunday, October 20, 2019 2:09 PM
Thabto's avatar

Green, the city I live in is putting in a few roundabouts. The ones they have done already have improved traffic flow greatly. I rarely ever have to stop unless there's already a vehicle in the circle. Better than sitting at a red light for a few minutes. There's rarely ever any accidents in them. Roundabouts are actually safer than regular intersections

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