Larger women - 2015 - help!

I'm glad im still in my youth. You seem to be stressing out over this. Just go to the park and ride what you can ride. If you don't fit, then don't get in line. There are plenty of other things to do besides ride Intamin coasters. All i know is that my grandma was too large for dragster one time, but she tried later and "sucked it in". She fit. The seatbelts for some reason felt longer on dragster this year. It might just be how long the tabs are and i forgot.


SV ruins all other rides.

Save yourself the embarrassment of tying up a ride and having to do the walk of shame while EVERYONE watches and try the test seat first. At least then, you can just say you're too afraid to ride and go about your business with no one paying attention.

Jeff said:
You quoted an entire post for a one liner that didn't even include a period? You're doing it wrong.

Because I'm using server space? You have a thing for posting full scale pictures telling people to stop a certain behavior. Strange how you always nitpick every post somebody makes. Oh, I'm so sorry for quoting something. Guess you should go and nitpick every single other user on this site.

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Well, it is his site, and you didn't include a period...


I'm a Marxist, of the Groucho sort.

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The pictures aren't stored on the server, that's why there's no problem with them.


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noggin said:

Well, it is his site, and you didn't include a period...

So I have to have periods to post? Always a laugh coming to this site ;)

Oops, sorry. I didn't include a period on that last sentence.

Oh, I am so sorry. Four sentences ago. Have to make sure everything is crystal clear here.

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It's okay. The button with the period on it can be ever so hard to find.


I'm a Marxist, of the Groucho sort.

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Get a life.

I've heard that the test seats weren't accurate. People can fit in the test seat but not in the train. Is that true?

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They are stored wherever they are uploaded, just not on the server for this site. When you click the picture button, it asks for the URL and doesn't give you an option to upload it.


Brian
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Paisley's avatar

Not everything has a test seat. Someone asking for tips on how to get to ride (which car, which seat) with the least risk of making the walk of shame should not bother some people as much as it seems to. If someone does not know that the seats on some coasters are not evenly sized and they try to sit in the smaller side they may think they no longer fit at all, end up doing the walk of shame, and not even try to go on the ride again assuming they will just be making the walk again. By knowing to look at the dividers or to try switching places with a friend or knowing which seat has the strangely longer seatbelts than others they can avoid the walk of shame and enjoy themselves to the fullest. Isn't that what we all want? To enjoy our day at the park to its fullest? Instead of being judgemental about what you think we eat too much of or implying that we waste your time by even trying to get on a coaster that might be questionable for the walk of shame maybe you can just scroll past this thread and leave us chubby gals to our own devices to figure things out and be helpful to each other.

I wonder if you would tell every football lineman in college and the NFL that they needed to put down the funnel cakes and jump on a treadmill? They cannot ride most of the rides. What about the rides that have shoulder restraints? Would you tell weight lifters to do the same so they could fit?

I understand that the average amusement park visitor is of average size and can fit into everything. However, there is a part of the population that is bigger than average and love to ride roller coasters.

What I don't understand is why doesn't these rides with tight belts not have the same type of belts as Maverick; where you click your belt and then pull it tight?

I understand CP's reason for safety, but why not put a seatbelt on that allows you to pull it tight if you fit into the regular restraints?

Be good everyone.

The point is that almost every recent rider being ejected from a coaster either resulting in death or serious injuries, have been morbidly obese and were not able to be secured properly. Not to mention the poor people who have to witness probably the most horrific thing they will every see when all they did was seek was a day of fun. I would not run that risk and neither is Cedar Point. If you cannot fit in a seat, you cannot ride. Simple as that. There are plenty of other things to do (and eat) at an amusement park. I would imagine this being the ultimate wake-up call to change your life instead of demanding longer seat belts. Seriously, I cannot be PC anymore on this subject. If your A$$ cannot squeeze into a seat that MILLIONS of others can, make a change and stop demanding that a company changes policies for you. No one is forcing you to ride just as no one is force feeding you either. I cant believe how many people get so bent out of shape on this. If you cant fit, get the hell out of line and stop making a scene.

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Mraudit2000 said:

I understand that the average amusement park visitor is of average size and can fit into everything. However, there is a part of the population that is bigger than average and love to ride roller coasters.

Most rides can accommodate the vast majority of the population. However, it's simply not possible to safely secure all riders of all body types/sizes/configurations. If the restraints are designed to accommodate someone who is 6'7" and weighs 225 pounds (which is a healthy BMI), that same restraint likely cannot safely secure someone of more average proportions.

When riding Raptor during my last visit, we ended up sharing the front row with a big, brawny dude. He wasn't by any stretch of the imagination obese. He was just a barrel-chested giant, and in fact his size prevented him from being able to buckle the restraint, despite the operator putting literally all of his weight on the restraint, as the would-be rider pulled down and tried to shrink himself. He had to do the walk of shame. And he and his (much smaller) significant other had purchased FL.

Ride manufacturers have made strides recently toward being more accommodating, but again, they can only do so much. Not everyone can do everything. That's life.


Brandon

clevelander said:

The point is that almost every recent rider being ejected from a coaster either resulting in death or serious injuries, have been morbidly obese and were not able to be secured properly. Not to mention the poor people who have to witness probably the most horrific thing they will every see when all they did was seek was a day of fun. I would not run that risk and neither is Cedar Point. If you cannot fit in a seat, you cannot ride. Simple as that. There are plenty of other things to do (and eat) at an amusement park. I would imagine this being the ultimate wake-up call to change your life instead of demanding longer seat belts. Seriously, I cannot be PC anymore on this subject. If your A$$ cannot squeeze into a seat that MILLIONS of others can, make a change and stop demanding that a company changes policies for you. No one is forcing you to ride just as no one is force feeding you either. I cant believe how many people get so bent out of shape on this. If you cant fit, get the hell out of line and stop making a scene.

I've seen this point made plenty in other threads on this topic, but here it is again. Not everyone that can't fit is morbidly obese. Now, my personal experience with the tight coasters at CP has been limited, but I have seen many people stating in various threads that fairly average sized women that happen to have larger hips and butt can't fit in the coasters. I'm not saying that CP or Intamin should be changing the seats to accommodate this. However, attitudes like yours are unnecessarily rude. I can promise you, as a woman with a naturally large frame and naturally large hips, no amount of exercise or diet that I can do is going to shrink my hip bones. So if, I quote, "my a$$ can't squeeze into a seat that millions of others can", that has nothing to do with being overweight and I do not need to be told that I need to change my life and stop overeating and blah blah blah. No more than a man that has very muscular thighs and can't fit needs to be told that.

Again, please understand that I am not demanding that anyone change the ride to accommodate me or anyone else. I understand there being natural size limitations on some of these rides. The point is, it is rude to assume that someone that can't fit must be morbidly obese and just needs to be told to go on a diet. And there's also no need to assume that anyone that is looking for clarification on whether they can fit is "demanding" that the seats be changed.

I only started this thread to get some concrete information on the likelihood that I would be able to ride certain coasters, as well as ask if anyone happened to notice certain seats being more accommodating than others. But not to worry, there are plenty of other things I can eat at Cedar Point if I don't fit! Lol.


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I wasn't saying that to be rude. MOST people kicked off rides are not large muscular people. This is a fact and even though very blunt but needs to be placed front and center and not sugarcoated and no excuses made. There are limitations on size that many ride manufacturers are willing to go. The people here in the US seems to be the exception and keep saying "just make the seats or seatbelts bigger". This same applies for sporting events, airplanes without any consideration for the people who need to be seated next to them. If a company built a seat that fits about 95% of the people SAFELY that visit, that is a success. Simple as that! For the remaining 5% if no amount of pushing, squeezing, or sucking it in can get them to fit, "oh well that's on them" is what how they look at it.

There IS a thing called personal responsibility and also resigning to the fact that if you "MAY" not fit, why embarrass yourself in front of a full station of people? Just go enjoy just being in the park and making the best of your day possible? Also the "big boned" excuse it just that, an excuse. I would bet my life that your actual bones are the same size and almost everyone in your age range of various sizes. I seriously loathe when people use that excuse and cringe. I would hope that you would have made enough changes personally to reach your goal of being able to ride the coaster of your choice this year. If not, there ARE other things to do at any park and maybe with the right mindset you can ride EVERYTHING the next year if you REALLY wanted to.

If not for this year, I would say meet me at Famous Daves for food! BY FAR the best value for a meal and decent air conditioned atmosphere. Plus if you pay for parking, don't forget to bring your parking receipt with you because it gets taken off your bill! Not many people know this. :)

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I don't understand why these threads always degrade into this downward spiral. I don't recall suggesting that the park increase the size of anything in order for me to fit my butt into it. I don't recall FloridaGirl doing that either. She had questions, I had some answers based on my frequent trips to the park and currently being overweight and a tight fit on some rides. Pretty simple and yet here we are arguing about how much people eat and whether or not big boned is only an excuse and if we should risk ambarassing ourselves in front of people. This is just absurd. I would rather risk embarassing myself in front of people to find out I don't fit on something than to forever wonder if I missed a ride I could have taken. Just because some fat people claim to be only big boned does not mean that some people do not have larger frames than others. Back when I was at my ideal weight I was wearing a womens' size 14 because of my hips. 14 is considered "plus size" by many. In high school ankle bracelets were really popular and I really wanted one but I could never find any in the store long enough to get around my ankle bones while I was at my ideal weight. I have wide shoulders too and have always had trouble fitting them in womens shirts and dresses. I also have big feet. This was all a problem back when I was my ideal weight so don't tell me some people don't have bigger bones than others. Now I'm fat on top of having big bones, not because of big bones.

FloridaGirl I expect to be at the park quite a bit, hopefully sometime again this week. When I get my first ride on Rougarou I'll let you know how the restraints are.

The only things I haven't been able to ride at any parks anytime recently are the Wicked Twister style rides. I can ride every other coaster I've tried to, but not those inverted impulses for some reason.

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My neighbor is actually thin but has very wide hips.

Just sayin'...


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Kris

clevelander said:

I wasn't saying that to be rude. MOST people kicked off rides are not large muscular people. This is a fact and even though very blunt but needs to be placed front and center and not sugarcoated and no excuses made. There are limitations on size that many ride manufacturers are willing to go. The people here in the US seems to be the exception and keep saying "just make the seats or seatbelts bigger". This same applies for sporting events, airplanes without any consideration for the people who need to be seated next to them. If a company built a seat that fits about 95% of the people SAFELY that visit, that is a success. Simple as that! For the remaining 5% if no amount of pushing, squeezing, or sucking it in can get them to fit, "oh well that's on them" is what how they look at it.

There IS a thing called personal responsibility and also resigning to the fact that if you "MAY" not fit, why embarrass yourself in front of a full station of people? Just go enjoy just being in the park and making the best of your day possible? Also the "big boned" excuse it just that, an excuse. I would bet my life that your actual bones are the same size and almost everyone in your age range of various sizes. I seriously loathe when people use that excuse and cringe. I would hope that you would have made enough changes personally to reach your goal of being able to ride the coaster of your choice this year. If not, there ARE other things to do at any park and maybe with the right mindset you can ride EVERYTHING the next year if you REALLY wanted to.

If not for this year, I would say meet me at Famous Daves for food! BY FAR the best value for a meal and decent air conditioned atmosphere. Plus if you pay for parking, don't forget to bring your parking receipt with you because it gets taken off your bill! Not many people know this. :)

Sure, I'm sure in many cases, if someone can't fit on an amusement park ride, it's because they're overweight.... however there are other not-uncommon situations as well. When it comes to MF and the Intamin coasters, being that they are the most restrictive of any roller coasters, I especially wouldn't assume that someone who couldn't fit is obese.... I've read many comments stating that people that were not really overweight had issues fitting due to their body proportions.

>>>"Also the "big boned" excuse it just that, an excuse. I would bet my life that your actual bones are the same size and almost everyone in your age range of various sizes. I seriously loathe when people use that excuse and cringe."

^^^ Uhhh.... this is definitely not true.

I assume you'd agree that people are not all similar heights. And yet, you think frame size / bone structure is a similar width for most people despite there being such a wide variation in height? This is not even close to being true. I'm not making an "excuse" for anything when I say that I have a large frame. Even when I am at my absolute most fit, with hardly any excess weight on me, I still wear size large clothes and pant sizes because my shoulders and my hips are both broad. There is no physical way for me to ever lose enough weight to be a size small. I can't lose inches from my shoulder width, which cause me to need size large tops, and I can't lose inches from my hip width, which causes me to need size large pants. I'm quite tall, so it looks fine on me - but I'm not and can never be a "small" person. Have you seriously never seen really fit people that still have large frames?

Especially when the issue with MF is hip size for women, I don't think you can consider a large frame to be just an excuse. Many women have naturally wide hips. My concern is that I've seen people posting things about how women that have naturally wide hips might not fit - and I know that I personally am the definition of naturally wide hips. *shrug* I hope all this helps explain where I'm coming from, and helps explain how I know for sure not everyone's frame and bone structure is exactly the same size.

I think we will be going to Famous Dave's... I've read so many good things about them. We got parking included with our hotel stay / ticket package, but I'll see if the discount would still work... thanks!

(Also, I'm glad Paisley pretty much already said the same thing as me! Paisley, I so much appreciate your advice!)


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