Update: July 5

djDaemon's avatar

Why would they build footers with extra concrete, and then backfill to a level grade? Just to spend some extra money?


Brandon

To make them stronger ... duh! Do you really believe that the footers on all their other coasters are just a couple of feet deep?


cyberdman

djDaemon's avatar

No, I understand the concept quite well. What I am asking is why would two footers that are quite close together have significantly different base heights?

And, no, its very unlikely that its a soil issue.

ADDED: I really hope the "duh" part of your post was made with an incredible amount of sarcasm. If not, grow up.
*** Edited 7/7/2006 5:56:59 PM UTC by djDaemon***


Brandon

Oh, okay.

There could be lots of reasons for that. Water table, differing forces of the ride subjected at those two specific points and/or even different uses of footers at that point, i.e.: one more for structural support and/or multiple use (station, lift mechanisms, etc.) and the other merely for ride elements and/or more than one support joined together at that specific point.

Edit - relax dude. I didn't know the " ;) " was mandatory these days.

*** Edited 7/7/2006 5:58:06 PM UTC by cyberdman***


cyberdman

djDaemon's avatar

True. However, the surrounding grade seems to indicate otherwise.

Time will tell.

ADDED: I am relaxed. With the current state of things around here, there's no telling who's being an idiot and who's not. That's why I assumed you were, in fact, being sarcastic.

No harm, no foul.

:)
*** Edited 7/7/2006 5:59:36 PM UTC by djDaemon***


Brandon

Speaking of footer depth, I don't think I've ever heard just how deep Dragster's footers go.

Can anyone let me in?! Just curiousity! ;)


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I'd have to agree with Dj that it looks as if those footers will be submerged. Looks like it's time to find those pictures of the swan boat pond drained and the footers in it a few days before the season.


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Bodes said:
Speaking of footer depth, I don't think I've ever heard just how deep Dragster's footers go.

None of the rides at CP have a very deep foundation. The foundations are very wide and act as a large base. That's why you see a small footer, with a large square block below the dirt in some of the pictures. TTD's tower is the same way, but much larger.

*** Edited 7/7/2006 7:23:11 PM UTC by Gomez***


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JuggaLotus's avatar

Except for Space Spiral, which goes some 30 feet into the bedrock.


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Gomez's avatar

^I actually thought about that right after I posted. That might have something to do with it being one straight up tower.


-Craig-
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I actually find it interesting that they're poured new concrete in the base of the old "river" from WWL. That's not part of any footing because those are all poured in forms.

e x i t english's avatar

djDaemon said:


ADDED: I am relaxed. With the current state of things around here, there's no telling who's being an idiot and who's not. That's why I assumed you were, in fact, being sarcastic.

No harm, no foul.

Be careful djD, some people around here take the internet a little *too* seriously. As evidenced by the messages that were meant to come to me from I HATE Six Flags be3fore he got banned ;).

-Josh

anybody know how many footers are there? i know that there alot. i also know tha this would be hard to find out or count. i was just curious.

cyberdman said:
and back fill it with all those dump trucks full of dirt.

Actually, yesterday morning, I saw two full dump trucks of dirt driving off the penninsula...

And another bobcat being unloaded from the back of a flatbed.

Thought I would also note that the newer trench near the WWL station was having the gravelly stuff they put under the footers poured into it later in the day.

It takes a lot of footers to support a 500 foot tall rotating restaurant. Geeze.

The width or the footers also relates to the soil type as Cedar Point is basically sand and needs additional width on the footers to keep them from moving. (or sinking.......no more said)
*** Edited 7/8/2006 1:59:24 AM UTC by Chuck_E_Cheese***


Sorry for the mess. Signature under construction.

TTD 120mph's avatar

^lol I work there.:)

Um, oh yeah footers.....that trench thing.....


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Kinda off topic... but I was at the park today, and I saw the first supports in the construction area. They didn't do anything with them, but they were onsite.

:)

Fantastic!

+smiles in an annoying and sligtly geeky way+

I'm surprised they would have them over there before the footers are even done...

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Edit: Eee! My avatar works :) *** Edited 7/8/2006 6:54:36 AM UTC by CP Tay Tay***


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I saw the supports too. Friday night from the train. Quite a few short supports, plus one noticeably longer. Plus a crane similar to the one at the staging area, with the outriggers extended. All were near the tracks in a group.

I can't imagine they would do this unless they had plans to go vertical within a matter of days. *** Edited 7/8/2006 7:16:43 AM UTC by LocoLima***

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