Boats playing obscene music at CP beach

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Paisley:

...there's no reason they can't just go farther out into the lake and then they can play whatever they want as loud as they want and it wouldn't be bothering anyone.

You are, mistakenly I think, assuming they weren't intending on bothering others. I'd bet money they were. Some people are like that. Playing music incredibly loud in public isn't done for one's personal enjoyment of the melody, at least in my experience.

RCMAC:

...turn a situation like this into a teaching opportunity. “Dad, why do they have to be so loud over there?” “Honey, it’s because they’re a**holes and you’ll find that every once in a while you’ll have that...

I upvoted, but this deserves special emphasis.

This isn't to say it was wrong to ask CP Police to do something. That's not an entirely unreasonable response. But faced with their inability to do anything about the situation, it's a great opportunity to point out to the delicate ears that sometimes in life you'll encounter jackasses and while we can't control that, we can control how we respond to those situations.

TwistedCircuits:
In light of your point though, my comment was more of a political question as to why some things are treated one way for one instance but different for another instance.

I'm old enough to remember a time before this existed, so I disagree that music is treated differently. Thanks a lot, Tipper Gore!

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Brandon

Upvoted for the Tipper Gore reference. Oh, how I hated her in the 1980's.


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People have become such trash lately. I have no doubt those "lyrics" you posted were heard by tons of kids and families trying to enjoy the beach.

I didn’t really expect CP to do anything but I still wanted CP to understand the experience on the beach is negatively impacted by assholes blasting inappropriate music in a family setting.

I don’t need my wife and kids exposed to vulgarity like that.

I imagine none of the parents on the beach appreciated it.

I didn’t approach the boaters because I wasn’t looking for a fight and I doubt they would have respected my opinion.

I’m not being a crybaby. I’m asking people to not be assholes.

I posted it here so that others can be aware of the issue. Maybe others will also speak up.

Totally agree with everything you said. And yes, if enough people complain, I'm sure something will be done. $$ talks.

e x i t english's avatar

I’ve learned that “asking people not to be assholes” is a big ask, especially these days. It seems the last 3 years have brought out the worst one people - they have “main character syndrome”, where they feel they are the main character in their story and everyone else is just in the way. Otherwise known as a complete lack of awareness of their surroundings.

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Yeah. The neighborhood we live in is, for the most part, excellent. Except for one neighbor, who thinks it's appropriate to play music outside at absurdly high volume. As in, they're 4 doors down and across the street, and I can hear it clearly in my backyard over our music. Their immediate neighbors have, at times, politely requested that they lower the volume, to which the response has been, and I kid you not, to turn the music up even higher.

Everyone has tried to politely approach them, but nothing works. So now we simply call the police, who show up with a decibel meter, explain that their music is legally too loud and make them turn it down. And every couple/few months we have to repeat the whole process. It's their world and we're apparently just living in it.

fritzer:

...if enough people complain, I'm sure something will be done.

How so? Cedar Fair doesn't own the water.


Brandon

I would imagine that if what was described is accurate, it's only a matter of time before it literally ruins a majority of people's vacation at the breakers. Once it starts affecting business, I'm sure CP has quite a bit of sway with the local govt to enact some sort of local ordinance.

bgiese:

I don’t need my wife and kids exposed to vulgarity like that.

I'm sure your wife can decide for herself what kind of vulgarity she would like to be exposed to.

It’s absolutely fine to ask people not to be assholes- as long as you actually ask them which is what you didn’t do. Instead you called the park then turned to us. Which, and I’m sorry, reads crybaby.
And please don’t get me wrong. I don’t blame you for not approaching them- we’ve all seen occasions where something like that can turn for the worse. So what’s to do? Complain to thin air? Or let it go.
Who were they? Adults? College kids? I have to assume that they were somewhat responsible, I mean they have a boat. And maybe it’s more common for everyday dummasses to have boats up there than it is where I live, but no matter what it’s not an inexpensive activity.
And finally (I promise), I just have to believe that this is not happening all day every day. I’ve never experienced or heard of this complaint in all my years of going to the park. So perhaps it was just an isolated event. Anyway, this talk of the park getting involved by establishing new local ordinances, is probably for nothing.

I am amazed at the number of people who apparently think life needs a sound track. Listen to what you want on head phones/ear buds or at volumes that don't reach others not in your group. But what makes people think everyone else wants to listen to your music? Increasingly seeing it hiking in parks carrying portable speakers with them as they hike/walk.

e x i t english's avatar

People think that by blasting their music, other people will hear it and think “man, what a cool/edgy/whatever guy that guy must be”

We listen to music pretty loud put in the patio or in the garage, but I know the volume at which sound falls off, and my neighbors might hear some faint music in the background.

I used to have a neighbor that had a young kid who was a scene/emo kid, and he wanted ALL the neighborhood to hear his music. He would sit in his room, turn on his stereo, and put the speakers in the windows playing outside, absolutely cranked. He was definitely trying to flex how cool he was, but it really just pissed people off. His mom never told him to stop, so we all hated her, too.

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Even on golf courses these days, I'd wager maybe 20% of golfers have music playing loud enough in their golf carts to hear it while they're teeing off or putting on the green 40 feet away from the cart. It is interesting how it's become very mainstream to play your music for everyone to hear. To be fair, I'm totally guilty of blasting Master of Puppets at the end of the school day when I was in high school, but that was when I was 18 years old so I feel like I get a pass. And people needed to know about Metallica (they didn't really need to since this was 2003...).


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RCMAC:

It’s absolutely fine to ask people not to be assholes- as long as you actually ask them which is what you didn’t do. Instead you called the park then turned to us. Which, and I’m sorry, reads crybaby.

They're on a boat, that's out on the lake, playing loud music....ask them how? Not sure the logic adds up to calling the poster a cry baby.

Been in the same situation myself while backpacking. A boat pulled into small bay where we setup camp at. Music was so loud we could hardly hear each other. Obviously there was no way to get the attention of the boaters. They probably wouldn't have cared if we tried. If you're a reasonable person, I think you would agree that type of behavior is not very considerate of others around you. This coming from someone who listens to music throughout most of the day.

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GoBucks that may be one of the most accurate videos for a thread I've seen.


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GL2CP's avatar

I could never fathom playing anything loud enough for those who aren’t involved in my event to hear it clearly. Honestly I’d be fine if their boat took the iceberg challenge if I heard the music as loud as the op described.


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Nah RMAC nothing wrong at all with asking the park to handle which is how it should be done.

Your logic suggests that hotel guests should also do the same for other loud guest rooms? You think personally knocking on their door instead of calling the front desk is a superior way of handling a complaint? You're in the minority here bud.

You call them a crybaby for asking the park for help... Yet they would probably be called a Karen for approaching the boat and asking them to turn the music down.. The names are funny because it seems 99% of people DO want them to approach the park for help and 99% DO want the boater to turn off the explicit sexual music.

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Using the hotel as an analogy doesn't make sense, because Cedar Point owns the hotel.

Cedar Point doesn't own the lake, sometimes people are buttholes, sometimes the best we can do is shake our heads and make the best of it. There's really not much more to it than that.

Everyone seems to be missing the part where I conceded that going out on the lake to resolve this situation was clearly not an option. And that would include any action expected of the park.
I used “crybaby” to emphasize the fact that the OP is using this forum to complain about something that nobody there, as proven, or here can help with. I still think that if I were to go out onto the beach today or any other day this week that this situation would not be happening. A lot are chiming in about how people can be disrespectful of others ear space anymore, so what can’t this just be one of those isolated cases?
And I may be wrong but I think the OP and I are good here, so thanks.

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