Mean streak is not closing in July

It's better for them to say nothing than to deny something.

How is that better?

Let's say next year, with a probability is a soak city expansion, how is letting rumors get out of control better?

These fan sites have made it to real media as basis for reporting. Media realations are important, and the ability to control expectations is part of his job.

Allowing a rumor as this to get out of control could hamper the expectations game for what is actually going to be new for 2017. And that is his Job.

I'm talking about specific information. Rumors are usually vague, and that isn't misinformation. If fan sites are reporting the information as fact, including details, then he would curtail the rumors. Until then, I don't see any issues.

CPNostalgia said:

more like a dick move.

How so?

XS NightClub said:

To be fair the park did not tease RMC, people on this site did.

The park did the opposite of tease, they explained away the RMC survey marker.

But the people who run the park are not stupid. Whether RMC is coming or not, the park did tease it. Even if that marker doesn't stand for Rocky Mountain Construction, the park knew that it would create buzz and enthusiasts would jump to conclusions.

So, what you are saying is if CP hires, say, Ray Miller Contractors, they are "teasing" Rocky Mountain Coasters?

No, he's saying there wouldn't be the three letters "R" and "M" and "C" on this or any stake for that matter. Just like there wouldn't be "B" and "&" and "M" unless someone wanted to stir things up.

Or maybe RMC stands for something in the surveying world? Anyone know?

^^It doesn't matter what it actually stands for. The park knew that it would create buzz around a RMC makeover, thus, they are teasing us. CPGuru, Tony did confirm that it stands for something in the surveying world but I don't recall what it meant.

It could stand for this

Everything I look for says "rigid metal conduit" which is likely carrying electrical power to the lights under the ride.

Great! So Mean Streak's getting a new lighting package next year ;)

The savings on converting the lighting for MS to LED would be very substantial.

So I'm all in for the new for 2017- LED MS light package and soak city refresh.

Is it possible that they put RMC on those stakes to make us think Mean Streak is getting RMC-ed, when in reality GCI is coming in to do work on it? Maybe that's the teasing that's going on.

I just road my first GCI coasters today, Wildcat and Lightning Racer at Hershey. Wildcat was rough but LR is now my favorite woodie. OMG was that amazing! GCI can build a custom woodie like that for Cedar Point and I'll be all for it.

As far as reprofiling MS, CGI would need a miracle to turn MS into even a top 50 woodie.

^If that's true, it's a real disappointment. Unless they gut the coaster and do an RMC-esque makeover, a GCI Mean Streak will not be good. And if you did gut it and have GCI completely rebuild it like RMC, you might as well have had RMC come and make a better roller coaster that requires less maintenance. Don't equate RMC and GCI renovations.

BTW, I have been on GCI Ghostrider. Good ride? Yeah, but they didn't intensify the ride at all besides removing the trim, and I've heard some parts are less abrupt and intense to slow down wear on the structure. I was slightly let down by parts of it. They could have done so much better with a bit of reprofiling. Also, with no MCBR or capability to run 3 trains without one like Banshee, the capacity is kinda atrocious. MS, on the other hand, needs more than a bit of reprofiling. It needs a complete overhaul. Even the best possible GCI overhaul probably couldn't beat an RMC overhaul.

EDIT: The guy above me has it spot-on. Even with reprofiling, MS needs to be completely gutted to be decent, and it would be a waste of potential - CP could make their next steel coaster an RMC'd MS and save money on it, while building a GCI woodie elsewhere in the park that could be better than "GCI MS."

CPGuru said:
Or maybe RMC stands for something in the surveying world? Anyone know?

It usually stands for Rigid Metal Conduit in surveying...

CP Maverick beat me to it!

It also stands for RMC Surveying Company.

^ Hahaha I saw that earlier and at first quick glance I thought someone threw it together to be a smartass but on second look it's legit...

HOWEVER- GCI is based in Sunbury, PA. Rocky Mountain Construction is based in Hayden, ID. Obviously Cedar Point is in Sandusky, OH. I don't see any of those companies going so far out of their way to work with a surveying company out of Tyler, TX.

But then again they did reveal at CoasterMania! that the new water tower was designed & built(?) by a company from TX. So maybe the geography is irrelevant.

CPGuru said:
I just road my first GCI coasters today, Wildcat and Lightning Racer at Hershey. Wildcat was rough but LR is now my favorite woodie. OMG was that amazing! GCI can build a custom woodie like that for Cedar Point and I'll be all for it.

As far as reprofiling MS, CGI would need a miracle to turn MS into even a top 50 woodie.

Wildcat was in my top 5 before millennium flyers were put on it. Lightning Racer was okay, but not great.

I feel like most people here don't see the potential built into MS. If they did, they'd understand that reprofiling would significantly improve the ride layout.

It sounds like everyone just wants to jump on the RMC bandwagon. I'm not convinced.

CP Maverick, have you been on any RMC's yet?

I don't think there's a bandwagon. In just a few year, they have cranked out winning ride after winning ride, with no duds (excluding this year's additions because it's too early to say). No company has come on this strong, this early into its inception (maybe Intamin) and produced top 5/top 10 coasters out of garbage.

As far as reprofiling goes, doesn't matter if it's Gravity Group or GCI or in-house, but when done, it either produces a slightly better, same, or slightly worse ride than the original. Key word, SLIGHTLY, so I can promise you that Mean Streak's so called potential is not in the hands of said companies to reprofile. Mean Streak's potential lies in its massive structure which can be manipulated and warped by RMC's wacky (in a positive way) vision and produce a coaster that can even dethrone Maverick or MF as CP's number one coaster, at a fraction of their cost.