Fast Lane

Ya. Now it's like 2 hours from the pop machines.

^ ugh please stop. The time is not doubled. Yes it takes longer and it seems a lot longer because the pace has slowed down.

Well half the train is Fast Lane, so time is doubled.

It is not half. From what I saw it appeared to be 60/40.

Still thats terrible.

If we're just throwing wait times out there with no data to back it up I'll just go ahead and say that Fast Lane caused no noticeable increase in wait time when I was at the park.

Though I did shake my fist and mutter faaaassstt laaanne like an angry old geezer at the people going up the fast lane ramp on maverick. Still didn't notice an increase in wait times though.

Sure is a lot of nonsense spouting here. I had Fastlane a few weeks ago and they seemed to let in about one group per train at Millennium Force, which generally meant two to four people.

That seems pretty low, however i never saw how they handled FL on MF. On TTD they let both lines go at the same time and close FL off about 3 seconds earlier. Maverick was done about the same as well during the week i was there.

Last Tuesday, from 3 rows in front of the pop machines, I waited 1 hour and 23 minutes with no breakdowns and 3 trains running. Just picking a row that had the shortest line. Just stating what my wait time was from a point that used to be about 45 minutes give or take. I'll ride the big 3 for early entry, then won't touch them unless I notice a short line later in the day, or doing what I did before the ride night starts.

I hopped in line to ride at 9:17pm just to get a ride in before the season pass ride night started, instead of standing outside the que with my thumb up my butt like some others, just so they could be the first few in line for the ride night. I don't understand that one bit.

I would argue that they don't let enough people in from FL at Maverick. I waited a half-hour for that one, with the line out to the entrance.

I would agree. I didn't purchase FL but the line for Maverick last Monday was pretty long for FL. It's definitely about a 2 hour wait for a full queue in the normal line.

I think this is the part where I'm supposed to spout hate and nonsense because I didn't pay up, but I didn't feel cheated or angered. I just had a longer wait than I would have last year.

Dead Sexeh said:
Actually no i didn't assume anything it is all fact.

No, it's not a fact. You have no idea what the wait would have been otherwise.

While I don't doubt that you had to wait longer, you're still making an assumption. It's a logical assumption, but still an assumption, rather than a fact. There could be other factors affecting the wait time.

How can anybody not feel anger over this idea?

Couple the removal of several attractions (PWB, WC, & DT) along with what amounts to sanctioned line jumping (FL), and upcharges (Dinos) within a gate you already paid for --- amounts to less value in your standard ticket.

Just like the political race this year, CF is turning a "pay one price" admission into a race war of sorts between the haves - and have nots that can afford Fast Lane.

I have been trying to keep quiet. because, I didn't buy fast lane. But waiting in line for power tower the August 4th. Only one shoot up tower was operating. They fully loaded that tower with fast lane, (4) times. (4) times....meaning we didn't move for 4 cycles. because fast pass people got priority over our line. and there were only about 12 of us waiting. fortunately my patients was not thin this day. But we said if they let a 5th group in we are done waiting. luckily the second tower opened, and we got on as the 1st launch of the day...hopefully it was tested prior to that because it wasn't tested while we were in line, and they just opened it up and put us on it. so what percentage of fast lane versus line is that. negative 25 percent?

SteveH said:
...amounts to less value in your standard ticket.

True. So you now have to consider whether or not the standard ticket represents an acceptable value proposition. If it does, continue going to the park. If not, spend your discretionary income elsewhere.

Either way, getting angry about it is silly, and not constructive.

PB-Reader said:
...hopefully it was tested prior to that because it wasn't tested while we were in line...

Seriously?

...what percentage of fast lane versus line is that. negative 25 percent?

In the very brief amount of time during which you observed operations at that one ride, yes. But that doesn't mean the average wait time for any one or all rides has increased by "negative 25 percent". You just got in the wrong line at the wrong time.

Sort of like getting in line for TTD only to have it go down mechanical. Or getting ready to board Maverick only to watch an empty train run a few cycles to clean up after a protein spill. Stuff happens. It's not the end of the world.

SteveH said:
Just like the political race this year, CF is turning a "pay one price" admission into a race war of sorts between the haves - and have nots that can afford Fast Lane.

Oh, please. When you say something like that, you're being made a tool by the politicians. The idea of "class war" was invented by politicians to be divisive and make it appear they're on your side. Rich people don't want people to be poor, because there wouldn't be anyone to buy what they sell. Furthermore, in this case, we're talking about an amusement park, which is completely non-essential to life. If you don't like how they're doing business, you can simply not give them your money.

If you're going on days when the park is busy enough to have significant numbers of Fast Lane users, you're doing it wrong already. Thankfully, you now have a solution to that problem: get a Fast Lane of your own. In years past, you just had to tough out the sucky day.

Seriously, I used to work Millennium Force. I know what the wait times should be. From all that I can tell, based on the several trips I've made, the wait times are marginally increased, if at all. Hell, I think a great deal of it is the fact that the control system parks the trains so much more slowly than it used to, making it almost impossible to hit an actual interval.

So there. My anecdotal evidence cancels out your anecdotal evidence :-p

djDaemon said:

Dead Sexeh said:
Actually no i didn't assume anything it is all fact.

No, it's not a fact. You have no idea what the wait would have been otherwise.

While I don't doubt that you had to wait longer, you're still making an assumption. It's a logical assumption, but still an assumption, rather than a fact. There could be other factors affecting the wait time.

It might be helpful to read and understand my post before you start telling me that I'm wrong. I never said that I waited longer due to FL I said that the line moves slower because of FL. If you still don't understand what I'm saying let me know and I will try and simplify it for you.

My family will be traveling to the park again soon. We were wondering if a family can utilize fast pass and parent swap. We have children that aren't big enough to ride the rides and were willing to dish out a little extra cash so we could enjoy the larger rides but it's not possible to stand in line for hours with children that want to do their own thing. Can we purchase one Fast Pass and then use the parent swap so we only have to get one Fast Pass or do we need two Fast Passes?

I have to agree today was busy as busy can get for a Wednesday. Not Halloweekends busy, but busy for kids are going back to school and we need to finish the summer on a high note busy.

That being said, the two rides i thought where fast lane was going to be a problem were two completely different experiences. Millennium Force was very good, with the wait being more like an hour and twenty minutes and it was posted at an hour. They moved the line well and didn't really have it backed up more than maybe the stairs to the station. Maverick as Jeff said was a bit different, they were experiencing lines back to the entrance sign for fast passers so they probably do hold quite a few back when pushing people into the station. However, give or take a time check at the front of the park at 330 and a line that stated an hour and forty-five minute wait we got off at 540. So, i would say a twenty minute window really isn't killing anybody.